Shir Nir is an entrepreneurial CEO with over 20 years of experience in developing people and organizations. Through his company The Handel Group, Shir works with leaders as a partner to open their eyes to things that they couldn’t see by themselves. He does this by supporting them in designing their dreams, fulfilling their personal and professional objectives, enhancing their leadership and strategic thinking, and positively impacting their lives & their organizations.

Shir has vast experience in working with CEOs and C-level executives in a variety of industries, including technology, energy, government, media, finance, real estate, manufacturing, retail, pharmaceuticals, & insurance. Shir is a result-oriented executive consultant that leads cultural transformations and projects that produce enhanced results and organizational alignment.

Transcript:

Bryan Wish:

Shir welcome to The One Away Show.

Shir Nir:

Thank you Bryan. Thank you for having me on the show.

Bryan Wish:

Yeah. It’s a pleasure meeting you through one of our favorites or at least one of my favorites, Jimmy. So tell us what is the one away moment that you want to share with us today?

Shir Nir:

Okay. I’ll tell you the one way moment that I want to share today about is actually starting my own firm and failing miserably. And in around 2000, I was managing partner in a small consulting firm in New York. And there was a lot of lack of integrity in that firm. And I decided to leave the firm and start my own firm with two partners. The firm we started was a knowledge management company that we were consulting organization and how to harness and take the knowledge that exists within the organization and make it available throughout the organization, so it could be utilized to increase performance. And I was a master in selling those solutions. And I had a guy from IBM who was a master of the technology. And I have a guy from British Petroleum who implement that those solutions at globally British Petroleum and had a lot of experience during that.

Shir Nir:

They were just, those two people specifically were not good consultants and not good relationship people. And we started the firm. We had potential business that we were doing. And literally three months after that we started the firm, the 911 occurred. And basically our biggest client at the time lost 350 people at the trade center. And obviously the project ended in that moment and we could not continue with the project. And New York was just dead. It was like, if you wanted you couldn’t even start any projects or work. I mean, New York was recuperating from the disaster. And I started the company right before and I moved from making significant amount of money to making nothing, because I had a company and I thought we had enough work to do but there was nothing.

Shir Nir:

So push a few of a year later, we still working with the firm and we brought in a huge account that was working with the United Nations Population Fund. And we got connected to them and they really wanted to create a knowledge sharing organization where they can do programs consistently across around the world. We found out in the work with them that they were reinventing the wheel in every country they were doing programs, which means cost them a lot of money and it was inefficient. So we were hired to really… I got a great contract to really help them create that, develop a team, develop the tools and then roll it throughout the world. Even got to a workshop that we led in Africa and with the United Nations Population Fund in Africa only I did not go, my two partners went. And when the client returned from Africa, I was invited to his all office and was told that we are fired.

Shir Nir:

He said, “You should have been there. Your partners, excuse my language are assholes.” And I was devastated. It was a seven figure contract. And it was just a disaster. Sorry, a six figure contract not a seven figure contract. It was a disaster. And I’m like, “I don’t know what to do now.” I lost the big project that I was hoping that we would have and kind of get us to where we wanted to do. And basically that led to personal bankruptcy almost for me because we didn’t recover from that. We gave up on office in New York. I had to… We start working from home and basically did away with the company and got myself to a place where I had to borrow money from my brother-in-law because I couldn’t pay my bills. And I had a great house, so I had a good asset but I was trying to sell the house and see if I can get out of that. And my wife wasn’t working at the time. So it was a complete disaster for me. Like, “Oh my God, my dream just crashed.”

Bryan Wish:

Yeah. Wow.

Shir Nir:

And looking back at it, this was probably the best experience in my life, but it was not very fun when I was right in the middle of that. Go ahead.

Bryan Wish:

Oh, no finish.

Shir Nir:

And then I had… So I didn’t know what to do. I had a very nice house at like a dream house, my wife calls it in Western Connecticut on the river was a 1934 converted barn which is what we always wanted. And we had to sell it. We unfortunately did not take the first offer that was really the best offer and ended up selling it a year later for $150,000 less than the offer we got a year before. So here I am but I’m going to pack my stuff. I’m going to pack my kids. And we move to Florida to be next to my wife’s brother and his wife, because we were told at the time that we can buy the same size house for half the price in Florida. So, I cleaned my debt out by selling the house, moved to Florida, built a house in Florida. And kind of start getting out of the bad situation.

Shir Nir:

I literally just sold my piece of the business to a minute management consulting firm. And started to work for that management consulting firm, making $120,000 a year which was probably a third or fourth of what I was making when I was a managing partner in a consulting firm. But it got me back on my feet. I started learning other things that I’ve never done before and became really good at the work we were doing as a management consulting firm. Not only that I had my first year in the management consulting firm, I sold more than anyone else in the firm other than the owner. And he was very impressed with me and made me the head of business development for the company within less than a year of me joining the company. And I started a journey with him. Being in Florida, gave me a real nice opportunity to kind of pick myself up and rebuild myself.

Shir Nir:

I got into Ironman triathlon, I got into a really great community of athletes. Living there was kind of for me a dream come true. And I never knew I loved to do Ironman. I never did the thing before. I was a successful Ironman and a triathlete, not professional but amateur maybe to have Ironman world championship in the first year and kind of competed and was in the best shape of my life. I remember once I was going to a cardiologist just get tested and he put me on this treadmill in a very high incline and I was running and he couldn’t get my heart rate up. Because I was ready for an Ironman. I was in great shape. And they brought everybody from the office to look at me. They couldn’t believe that my heart rate doesn’t go up at that level.

Shir Nir:

And so it was kind of fun being there. At some point my two sisters-in-law, my wife’s two sisters who started Handel Group which where I now am and I’m the CEO of. Just said, “Okay, it’s time for you to join us.” And I was successful, I got myself back on my feet. I had some money in the bank and they said, “But you need to come back to New York.” And I’m like, “Really? I love it here.” My wife didn’t so that helped. And basically it led me to join them, creating my dreams join them, understanding what my dreams are. And join Handel Group to really come and build my own firm which is the dream I failed in the company before.

Shir Nir:

And currently with my wife’s two sisters and our team of 50 and full-time employees and 30 part-time employees, we have a real solid company that changes people’s lives and changes companies. And really makes a huge difference in the world. And although in a second iteration got to leave my dream and got to really make the difference I wanted to make. And I still use that bankruptcy and that not setting my company right in the beginning. And not even creating it the right way, when I coach CEOs of company, when I coach entrepreneurs I take away from that experience and leaving like that and coach and teach others.

Bryan Wish:

What a journey for you. It started with such maybe peril and such devastation pursuing something, taking a risk and then the crisis I’m sorry, the financial crisis. And then 911 which completely like yourself and so many others just shut down so many businesses. And the resilience to fight through emotionally and functionally and just keep on finding the way when maybe there wasn’t a lot of hope is truly a testament to who you are and the character you have inside. So thank you for giving us the full picture here. Question I was thinking about as you were talking, is you clearly have this knack for selling or sharing and casting a vision and getting other people to say, “Yes, I want to be a part of that.” Maybe as you look back even further on let’s just say childhood or high school, were there any formative experiences during those times that you remember in saying, the guy mowing the lawn and selling the thing. How were you raised in a way that maybe brought that out of you? Does anything come to mind?

Shir Nir:

In general, yes not specific moment where I kind of got it, but maybe later on there was moment that I got it. But I grew up in a kibbutz in Israel. It’s a farming community. And I always was a good worker. I was always a very dedicated worker. I did a lot of different things and I always got very high accommodation for the work I was doing as a kibbutz and a kid who grows in the kibbutz. I went to school full time but I also worked at the fields couple days a week we do that. And I learned a lot of the trade of working in the fields and growing crops and irrigating crops. And I was really just learning and creating. And then a year after I graduated high school, I went to served the country. Before I went to the army, in Israel you have to go to the army it’s mandatory.

Shir Nir:

But I postponed the army by a year. And I went to help a young settled that was built and needed some support and help. And then in the middle of me being there, we Israel got into a war with Lebanon. And all the man from that kibbutz were taken to serve the army as reserves. And here I am with some of my friends and we are basically are, possibly the only people in the kibbutz that only men in the kibbutz are not gone. And so I took over at the time we were bringing that kibbutz back from the Sinai desert, because there was a piece agreement with Egypt to the original Israel territory. And we needed to really create the foundation for all the irrigation in the fields. And nobody knew how to do that.

Shir Nir:

And because I was worked in the irrigation when I was a kid, I knew something about it. Again, I knew nothing. I never ran it but I took it on and I basically made it up. I got it done because there was nobody else who was getting it done. And I took it on and worked literally from four o’clock in the morning to eight o’clock in the evening every day, just to get things done and just to get the foundation developed and made it happen. And in my life I have other examples like that. When I just took something on and magically it happened. Boom, it happened I got the result. So I think that was a moment that got me to really… Other than growing with the theory that everything is possible if you want it, if you put your mind to it you can make it happen. That my parents always instilled in me. I have the experience of like, “I’m going to get it done and just getting it done. And so that’s a moment that led me to that.

Bryan Wish:

Totally. It’s like growing up in that environment was very foundational to your way of being, which showed you or gave you opportunities to take things on and then kind of succeed at them. I mean, just another question for you seems like when you really want something, you’re the kind of person who’s going to go out and make it happen no matter what the cost is. Have you found through the course of your life, that’s a strength in a weakness? A strength being in the fact that you’re action oriented and things are going to get done, but also weakness maybe the tunnel in which you operate within it becomes a little, it’s so laser focused that the awareness to things around you or how does that skillset play out in your life? I’m just curious.

Shir Nir:

Great question. I think these days, it doesn’t because I am trained in our method and I’m a lot more aware and lot more conscious about how I should be and what actually leads to success. And we can talk a lot more about that in the original days probably yes. But I want to tell you a little story. So I told you when I was in Florida, I was an Ironman and the triathlete and I was really like, “I’m going to be good. I’m going to… I like this. I’m going to be good. I’m going to train myself.” So to make it for instance, for world championship, I tied myself to a couple that was friends of mine. And they were both world class amateur triathlete. And I said, “If I train with these people, I know I’m going to make it.”

Shir Nir:

So I said, “Whatever you do I do, however you train I train.” There was no nos. I’m like, “I don’t care and made it.” I just qualified because I did that. But at the same time I was getting trained in the Handel method. And my sisters-in-law asked me to work with me on what we call my traits. And traits are hardwired, they come from your parents and from your lineage. And the original programming. You show up into the world with that, with those traits already programming to how you behave, you have no choice about it. Then the key is to understand your trait because if you understand your trait, you couldn’t put integrity into not let that trait hurt you. But only enable you traits are context sensitive. So they both work for you and against you depends on the context.

Shir Nir:

So I was working with them and they said, “Okay, how much do you think your family feels your love?” And I’m like, “Oh, that’s easy. Seven out of 10, at least.” They give them everything they want. They have great life. So they said, “Really, that’s what you think.” And I think, “Yeah, easy.” And they said, “You know what? Let’s go, let’s do a test.” And I said, “Okay, let’s do a test.” And they said, “Why don’t you go and interview your family?” And my daughter was six, my son was 10 and my wife. And I said, “Okay, what do I ask?” And they said, “Well, first of all, you’re telling them you’re working on yourself and you need to know the truth. You don’t want it sugar coat. You really want how they feel about this question you going to asked.” I said, “Okay.”

Shir Nir:

And then you ask them a very simple question, how much of my life you actually feel not know, feel every day. And I went and I asked my daughter and my son and my wife. So my daughter gave me six out of 10. Now six is not good. Anywhere if above eight is okay, six is already not good. If my daughter doesn’t feel my love, that’s not great. My son and my wife both gave me a two out of 10. And my son even said, “Dad, I know you love me. You give me everything I want. There’s nothing I don’t have. But do I feel your love? No. I don’t feel loved by you. I am loved by you, but I don’t feel loved by you.”

Shir Nir:

And that was going to another moment that changed my life because I went to work with it. So, and my son and I really did a… We had an agreement and in Handel Group, what we do to evolve an area that is not working for you in your life or a trait is you make promises and consequences. So what I did is I said, “Okay.” Obviously I don’t know what I’m doing with my son. So for me to actually imagine what he would for him to feel my love is crazy. So what do I do? Well, I go and ask. Well in that conversation I said, “Okay, listen obviously I’m a moron in that. And I don’t know what it takes for you to feel my love and I need your help.”

Shir Nir:

And he said, “Sure.” And I said, “Okay, I want to be an eight or above for you every week. So I’m going to ask you how I did every week.” And he said, “Sure.” And I said, “Okay, what do I need to do for you to actually feel my love?” And he said, “Dad, that’s easy. When I come back from school and your home, give me a hug, ask me how my day was. I don’t want to tell you but you asking would be great. When I do something bad don’t yell at me because when you yell at me I just want to say F-U to you. You can say something and yelling doesn’t work.” I said, “Deal.” He said, “You know what? On the weekend, I know you train hard. But after you come back from training, one day on a weekend I want you to take me out without Sophie, my daughter. Because when she comes with us, she takes all your attention. She’s little, you protect her. And I don’t get your time.

Shir Nir:

I said, “Deal.” And take me for a run with you once a week. And take me to the gym with you once a week. I said, deal. Anything else? He said, “No, if you do that every week, I think you got it.” I said, “Good. So I said, I’ll come to you every Friday. So I know where I am. So I have two days to fix it. If I’m not doing well. And here it is, and this is the craziest. I said, if I’m not an eight or above for you every week, I cannot clean my bike for a week.

Shir Nir:

Now people would think this is crazy, who cares about cleaning your bike? I did. Every time I rode and I rode about 200 miles a week, I would clean my bike until it shined completely. The chain, the bike was the cleanest bike on the field. And if I couldn’t clean my bike, it would drive me crazy. So one week I didn’t make it. He gave me a seven and a half and I couldn’t clean it for a week. And that was the last time I didn’t make it. And that altered the relationship that I have with my son.

Bryan Wish:

Holy crap. Wow. Thank you for sharing sections an intimate moment. I mean, to have your… I mean, all parents want is their kids to be happy. And the fact that your son gave you a two, I’m sure was super painful. And obviously clearly made you reassess how you were showing up as a father, maybe become more conscious to how you were showing up presently in his life. How many years ago was that?

Shir Nir:

My son is 25 now. So 15 years ago.

Bryan Wish:

And if you asked him the same question today, what would he say?

Shir Nir:

Completely different.

Bryan Wish:

Wow.

Shir Nir:

And there’s a moment we moved from Florida back to New York. And I was feeling that our relationship was kind of took a dive. And he was 14 years old, 15 years old at that time, and I was taking him to play date. And then on the way back, I said, “Listen, I need to have a conversation with you.” And he said, “Sure.” And I said, “I’m sure it’s something that I did. And I’m sure that I deserve it but lately you’ve been a dick me.” And in these words and he says, “You’re right.” And I said, “What did I do? Can I clean it up?” He said, “Actually, you didn’t do it. It’s on me. And I apologized.” And we got back into the great relationship we had. So it gives you the opportunity to kind of have real conversations and to work on the relationship as they go up and down. And so the same trait that gets me to be very successful, got me to be unsuccessful originally with the relationships.

Bryan Wish:

Yeah. Well said, well, very interesting. And not surprising but I can completely see that dynamic. But also the fact that you at the work ethic clearly and everything else that you’ve done, you’re just applying it to the home. Have seen the tremendous feed results of that. So then let me ask you about, your dream was always, you said to build a successful business and you watched that fall off the window right in front of your eyes. And you were covered obviously but to take your next shot, I relate a lot with you in this where it’s like the first business I had failed and it was crushing although it was meaningful.

Bryan Wish:

But the second one, I was like, I got to get it right. So my question to you is, when you had this opportunity before knowing what you know now but without that information, what made you say to yourself, this might be a really good road for me to go down. This might be a good next step that is very aligned and can fulfill that dream might have, what did you based that decision off of then?

Shir Nir:

The first time?

Bryan Wish:

With Handel Group?

Shir Nir:

Oh, with Handel. Well, at some point when I was working for the management consulting firm, I started to get coaching by my two sisters-in-law. But within Handel method and they had me do something very simple that we have everybody does which is, we teach connect to your dreams in every aspect of your life. And the first time they asked me that question it was, I know my dream. My dream is to make more money, work less and train more. That’s it. And they said, “You are laying.” And I said, “I know. I don’t know my dreams.” So I spent weeks looking at my life, looking at my relationship with my family, looking at my dream career, looking at the money, looking at the community I want to create. Looking at my entire, the entirety of my life and asking myself the question, what would make me happy?

Shir Nir:

What kind of life would make me happy. And I found several things that were critical component for me in my life. One, was I needed to own to be a part owner of a business. I usually am the top performer in end business I went to, and at some point I get to resent other people because I’m performing at a higher level. And I don’t get a part of the success because somebody else owns the company. And for me, that doesn’t work. I need to… If I’m building it, I want a piece of it. And I build every business I was in and I create new stuff. And so I was really clear that if I don’t own a business, if I am not one of the owners. I don’t need to be the owner or the only owner but I need to be an owner.

Shir Nir:

I need to benefit from the fruit of my labor. And not just by commissions or stuff like that but really from… And I wanted to lead. I wanted to lead the company somewhere and I wanted to be able to create things that I know would make a huge difference for other people. And if I worked for other people I couldn’t do it. So at some point I was like, “Okay, I’m clear that I need to be one of the owners. I cannot work for an owner. And if I do every time, it will blow up because I would not be happy.” So actually, the first thing I did is I went to the company I was working for and I said, “Okay, I need to be an owner. Can I be an owner?” And the answer was no.

Shir Nir:

And I said, “Good, I’m leaving.” Literally that was the entire conversation. And they said, “What?” And I said, “I’m leaving.” And they say, “Why?” And I said, “I asked you if I can get ownership, you said no, no way you’re going to be a partner in this company. I need to be a partner in any company I’m working with, bye.” And they were completely surprised. And I left and knowing what your dreams are and knowing what’s important for you as a human being and where your integral and how you want your life to be gives you complete power. And it’s not bad power. It’s just complete power in causing what you want. If you don’t know where you’re going, you’ll never get there. But if you are clear about where you’re going, you are always going to have a much better chance to getting there. I hope I answered your question.

Bryan Wish:

No, absolutely. I mean, you took the time well, one year you had experience. You knew deep down you always wanted to be an owner or be a part of something bigger. Didn’t work out for you when you did it on your own the first time. And then when you asked for it from someone else they said, no. So that seemed like it was always driving you to the hard work behind everything you put into something was reciprocated because you saw something more for yourself. So, absolutely. So perhaps when this opportunity with Handel came up, you said, “Wow, this not only will make my life better make other people’s lives better.” And there’s an upside for me in the end result. So it makes a lot of sense to me on what made you maybe push forth and go forward on what excited you the most.

Shir Nir:

Yeah, absolutely.

Bryan Wish:

Yeah. Another question that I have is, obviously when you started doing with Handel Group, transform some things at home but what are things by working, building, growing this business where are other areas that you have seen your own life perhaps transform? And on the flip side of that question, where do you believe you make the most impact with maybe the clients that I know that you work with or the team members internally?

Shir Nir:

Those I’ll… Do you mind if I answer them in two separate ways?

Bryan Wish:

Yeah. I know I threw a lot at you, so felt whatever comes to you first.

Shir Nir:

So one of the moments that I had in Handel Group that also changed my life and then got me to a whole different level of another one. But because I have many going to burning men is one of them. But the one that I want to talk about is at some point I was working with an advertising company and I was meeting with him in the morning and then driving home in the afternoon, I got a call from my partner and she said, “What did you do?” And I said, “What?” And then she said, “What did you do?” And I said, “I don’t understand the question.” She said, “I got a call from the client that you offended them.” And I’m like, “I did what?” And they said, “You offended them.” And I did not know what she’s talking about. I had a fun conversation with the client, don’t know what she was talking about. And apparently the way I said whatever I said came across offensive to her and she got hurt.

Bryan Wish:

Wow.

Shir Nir:

And I was completely blind to that. And I ended up resolving it with her. I called her and said, “I apologize, completely blind to this. I did not know. I would never do it. I would never say that again. If I ever say that again, I owe you money right there. Right at the moment if I ever.” And she forgave me and she said, “Don’t worry about it. It was not a big deal.” But that moment I actually realized that I’m an asshole sometimes. And I am not in control of that. And I’m aggressive and not loving and caring with people even if I think I am. And I made a decision in that moment to never be like this and put structure into my life. And every that time since then I know that when you are loving and caring your results skyrocket and when you are pushy and aggressive, they don’t.

Shir Nir:

And most of us don’t understand that because we think we need to be aggressive. We need to do what we need to do. We need to push hard but it completely the opposite. When you are vulnerable, when you’re caring, when you’re loving, you get completely everything you want. And when you are not, well, sometime you do and sometime you don’t depends who you are dealing with. And life is better when you’re not right. So that was another kind of moment that shifted who I am completely, and my complete operating system and how I think about interacting with human beings which I teach that to everyone. Because I don’t think that everybody is strong to be that in their lives. We all try to survive and protect ourselves instead of let be open and transparent and intimate and let the world take over.

Bryan Wish:

Yeah. I mean, everything you just said and not to be too woo-woo. But I mean, for energy beings your way of handling situations and you’re putting things out into the world, it’s going to have an impact on other people. And impact on the people around them. And you add that up over time, you can be responsible I think, in this world for a lot of good or a lot of pain. And seems you made a conscious decision to just think about not that you were maybe aware of how you were coming across, but the fact that, I need to change how I show up in these conversations. And because I maybe didn’t realize the impact I was having on other people. So I mean, clearly a great deal of self-awareness on your part.

Shir Nir:

So the answer, your second question if you really don’t mind.

Bryan Wish:

Yeah, absolutely.

Shir Nir:

One of the things that I teach people that makes the biggest difference in the work that I do, whether it’s teams or whether it is organizations or whether it’s individual, is that as an individual team or organization, you have an operating system. And the operating system is completely accountable for all the results you own, you produce. That operating system is your integrity, your structures that allow you to do what you do and produce the results you produce. And that never lies your results are always consistent with your integrity. And as human being, you are com completely unaware of your integrity. Your integrity exists in three domain. Physical, physicality of you and how you speak and what you say and what you do in the actions you take. It exists emotionally which is kind of how you relate to people, how you feel about people even if you don’t understand that. And how you connect and all the relationships you have and spiritually. Spiritually is two things.

Shir Nir:

One is the way you think about everything and literally what you believe and all your theories about life and how it works that shows up into complete integrity or complete personal integrity, which is really what you said before. It’s the energy you show up in. And most people don’t get that people have energy or teams have energy, organization have energy. And that energy is a combination of physical, emotional and spiritual structure that we create around ourselves. So for instance, if your leg hurts it will impact your energy. Your energy is not going to be as relaxed and fun if you are just fought with your best friend, then you are going to bring that into every conversation and everything that you’re doing and that would impact your efficiency, will impact how you connect and how you talk to people even in a little bit.

Shir Nir:

And although people don’t really distinguish what they feel, they feel it. So if you are 100% in physical integrity, 100% in emotional integrity and 100% aligned with your thinking, creating and believing your result are going to skyrocket. And I work with people to get them to consistently bring them to those moments. And I have clients that in the last year they got triple promotion or double promotion because of who they were and how they showed up and the result they shall produce, not by working hard but really by being different.

Bryan Wish:

Yeah. Wow. But for you giving your own path of changing your own operating system, seeing other people do it in the way you’ve described and the results that speak thereafter has to be extremely of gratifying for you. And you can speak that language because you’ve done it yourself.

Shir Nir:

Yeah, exactly.

Bryan Wish:

Yeah. Wow. Very neat. Let me ask you one of these questions as we have gone on the topics. When you look at the end of your life or someone talking at the funeral, what is someone saying about you when it’s all set and done? How do you want to be remembered?

Shir Nir:

I want to remember somebody who enables people’s dreams come true, that’s it.

Bryan Wish:

Yeah. Special. We have a lot of commonalities here between you and I. And let me ask on that notion of dreams, what dreams do you perhaps have left in your own life that you haven’t achieved?

Shir Nir:

I want the company to grow beyond what it is today and enable my life moving forward to the next level and my partners and my family. I want to eventually live in Costa Rica which is on my way right now to happen and working on it. I want to actually create things or I’m in the process of creating things that are going to change the world with my clients and with the people that I support. And they all are creating things that are changing the world anywhere from quantum computing to a new operating system that will make people’s life easier to write people believe in understanding their own power. And harnessing their own power and knowing that’s going to make the difference to. And then finally, I want of kids to have an awesome life. I want them to… They’re both good kids and they’re both smart and capable and I want them to have an awesome life to find their partners and be happy and have great families. So these are my dreams.

Bryan Wish:

Yeah. Well, thank you for sharing everything that you have with us today. It has been a true joy.

Shir Nir:

Thank you.

Bryan Wish:

And the stories about family and work and your own journey really are touching. So thank you for everything, how you showed up. If I was to asked, where is the best place for people to reach out to you or find your company, or work with you or all the things?

Shir Nir:

Excellent question. We have handelgroup.com. That’s our website and we are available over there. I am also on LinkedIn, I’m available on Facebook but nobody uses Facebook anymore. But basically LinkedIn, my people can email me at shir@handelgroup.com or get to the website and find my email there or get to LinkedIn and find my email there. Those are the easiest way to get to me. We have a lot of different type of offerings to offer people anyway from a digital platform that people can do on themselves that doesn’t cost a lot of money for people to do this deep work that we are doing all the way to hiring a coach and me or my partners or other people that we have working for us. We all are trained in our method completely. Nobody in all of our coaches, coaches anyone, until they go through every aspect of our coaching in their personal life. They all do everything that they ask their clients to do.

Bryan Wish:

Wow.

Shir Nir:

And we love to help. We love to companies, we teach in schools, high school, middle school, lower level schools, universities, special programs. We have a not for profit organization. We built this year to work with educational programs and so least come join us. We do Instagram live, I do twice a week. So you can follow me on Instagram and see my Instagram lives on Handel Group Instagram. So there’s a lot of ways to get to me.

Bryan Wish:

Awesome. Well, have to send them your way. Thanks for sharing your message with us today. Well, what treat it was and-

Shir Nir:

My pleasure. Thank you for having me. It’s a pleasure to be here.

Bryan Wish:

Sounds good. Thank you.

Shir Nir:

Bye, bye.